Jesus Drowns Toddler For 'Sins' of His Mother!

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Bruce (from dialogue with Roy Casanova):  I have never had an 8-month old die on me, but I have had two young children die of asthma attacks, and my worst call was being first in the door on an 18-month old that hung himself in a Venetian-blind cord right in his own crib after his mother laid him down for his afternoon nap. The hysterical mother pushed the boy into my arms and started screaming for us to "save him!" We worked this little boy for probably 40 minutes in the field and another 20-30 minutes in the Emergency Room, but it was too late. It was horrible. Was it also "just his time," Roy? Notice that Jesus did nothing!

Christians are fond of telling others about how they have "felt the Holy Spirit in their hearts," and how "it moves them"; how Jesus "inspired" them to do this or that, but Jesus didn't lift one divine finger to "inspire" this mother (who was in the next room) to go and check on her child:

"tap... tap... tap... this is Jesus... your child is strangling to death... go check on him."

AMANDA: Bruce, do you have any proof that Jesus did nothing? My friend's son drowned four years ago when he was three while she was talking on the phone right by the pool, but with her back to it.  At that time she wasn't living in God's will and had backslidden a lot, but she says that even then God had warned her twice not to phone her friend.  The consequence of her disobedience was the death of her son, and it wasn't God's fault because she was warned. 

BRUCE:  [Note: Brief interruption here for a 5-minute Safety Lesson on the problem of pediatric drownings, and how to prevent them!]

Amanda, seeing such words as you write above suggests to me that you suffer from a psychological disorder and probably need to be evaluated by a mental health professional.  You seem almost giddy in professing this Godly "consequence" upon your friend in lieu of her, as you put it, failure at "living in God's will."  And for that your loving, compassionate Jesus punished her by drowning her little boy?  Yup, that certainly sounds like something Yahweh (i.e., Jesus) would do; murder a child for the sins of a parent.  He certainly did a number on David and Bathsheba's new baby, although He made him suffer for seven days before finally killing the child! (2 Samuel 16-18)  Of course, the child had done nothing wrong himself, he was "put to death" as a result of something that David had done (a common theme with good 'ol "righteous" David!). 

I guess this is what you had in mind in suggesting that your friend's baby was drowned as "punishment" for her ungodly ways, eh Amanda?  Well, HOLD ON A MINUTE!  Let's stop here for a moment and consider a couple of problems that presents.  First, I want to draw your attention back to something you said earlier.  For the sake of clarity, allow me to repeat:

Amanda: As a Christian, if I step out of God's will and do something wrong, God will help me out of the situation and forgive me if I turn to Him, BUT I still suffer the consequences.  If I murder someone and wholeheartedly repent to God, He will forgive me, but I will still go to jail as the consequence of my sin.  Is that, or is that not just?  God is a just God.  

and here was my response:

Bruce: So we can agree, then, that if you or I "do something wrong," then it is indeed "just" that we ALONE should be punished for our actions.

BRUCE: In other words, Amanda, if you do the crime then you do the time!  But in proclaiming the death of your friend's child as punishment for supposed "sins" of your friend, you have selectively ignored the "Word of God" as stated in Deuteronomy 24:16 and Ezekiel 18:20:

BRUCE: So how do you explain that, Amanda?  Is your God a liar?  If what you say about your God is true, then was the punishment of death to the child for the sins of a parent an example of "justice served"?  Oh, and before you answer that, I would like you to take a moment and share with me again about each person's "free will," and how they choose their own paths; and then tell me how we are to account for the imposing on this little boy's free will through his being drowned to death as "punishment" for the sins of his mother?  You think about that long and hard, Amanda, because, all bull$hit aside, I think your thinking about this in the light of something so tragic as the death of a child (a friend's child) will help you worm your way through that religious constipation that is currently contaminating your mind. 

AMANDA: But God used that bad situation where the devil took her son from her and brought good out of it - He brought her back into His fold.  She left her abusive relationship with her boyfriend, turned back to God, and is now happily married to a Christian husband who loves and respects her.  It's so easy to blame God for bad situations - it takes strength to turn to Him for comfort.

BRUCE:  I see.  So now that your friend is "married" to a "Christian husband," that's supposed to be the heavenly "reward" for her newfound "obedience to God's will"?  I guess that dead boy is something she equates with her "evil" past and probably doesn't even think about him anymore; probably never sits alone in the dark and berates herself with "if only I had . . . he would still be alive" thoughts; probably has just moved on with her life . . . now that she's "right with the Lord," right Amanda? 

And, once again, you try to blame "the devil" for something, even while you just went out of your way to proclaim it as a "consequence of her disobedience" (i.e., punishment) brought on to your friend by God himself! 

Honestly, Amanda, if there was ever a "devil" in the life of your "friend," believe me it's you!  You have no idea of the kind of psychological damage people like you inflict with this sewage.  In fact, I would like to have the email or snail mail address of your "friend" because I think she would be very interested in hearing what you are saying to others about the death of her little boy!  But you probably don't have "the courage in the face of God" to provide such information, do you Amanda? 

Bruce Monson